In 1985, Republican Arizona Senator Barry Goldwater
and Democrat Arizona Congressman Morris Udall shared
a stage before The Arizona Capitol Hill Club - perhaps
three hundred Arizonans employed in Washington by our
state‘s congressional delegation..
Both men came from pioneer families; had served the
state and nation in war and peace; and had been candidates
for President of the United States. 
Rather than a serious discussion of contemporary-1985
political issues, these two Elder Statesmen engaged
in a delightful, very humorous conversation about the
connections between their families, Arizona history,
and their unsuccessful races for the White House.
The program was moderated by Jack Murphy who had been
Arizona’s first television news anchor, beginning in
1949 on KPHO, channel 5 in Phoenix. In 1985 Murphy was
the spokesman for NASA.
The original tape of the
event was erased and recycled in 1985. This DVD was
transferred from what is likely the only copy of the
program still in existence. It is an “old BetaMax” ½
inch tape given to Bill McCune in 1986 by someone on
Mo Udall’s staff. It then suffered nearly twenty years
of heat and deterioration, lost in a storeroom - to
be recently found. The audio is great. But be warned
the technical quality of the video is plenty the worse
for ware. It is not your TV set. Still, as deteriorated
as it is, this wonderful, funny, give and take between
two of Arizona’s most valuable favorite sons is a joy
to watch!! And if anyone stumbles across a pristine
copy of the show, please get in touch!
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